(I planned to reopen The Whine Seller next week with a more positive note but eBay went and ticked me off so, sorry, two bitter rants in two days!).
eBay added two more approved Payment Methods to its approved list yesterday, Mooneybookers and Paymate now join eBay owned PayPal and newcomer ProPay. As part of the same announcement, ProPay will be opening up to all PowerSellers (they had previously only been open to certain levels).
While the big debate yesterday in various eBay related blogs was the trustworthiness of these two new options, I have to admit that I don’t really care what the details of these new services are. All I care about is that eBay just added some new payment methods and now I feel forced into offering them.
I rejoiced when they banned money orders. Why? Because money orders were more work (wait for them to arrive, check the mail every day, take them to the bank, wait for them to clear, too easy to fake) and only a tiny percentage of my buyers used them. Then why did I offer them? Because in an auction driven business, to me, every payment method you don’t offer is another bidder that you are alienating who may not bid on your stuff. If eBay makes it an option, you basically have to offer it or you risk losing bidders and buyers.
So by adding these three new services, they are basically forcing me to sign up for them. Might these new services be better than PayPal? Sure, it’s always an option. Might they even be cheaper? It’s possible, I haven’t even looked. But it doesn’t matter if they are all worse and more expensive. I will have to sign up for them anyway and that is what annoys me.
I know some people hated what they saw as the monopoly of eBay requiring only PayPal (which they owned) but, to me, the marketplace needed to be standardized. Throwing 3 new services with three new policies, processes and confusions into the mix isn’t going to help but only hurt in the long run.
I know, I sound like the oldest woman ever. I swear to god, I’m not. See? But everytime they add a new approved payment method, no matter what it is, it annoys me.
Maybe one of you can sell me on why adding new payment methods is a good thing because I am just not feeling it.
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as i know, moneybookers does not chargeback, mean if u pay with your credit card through MB, u can’t chargeback..
sorry for my poor english
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as i know, moneybookers does not chargeback, mean if u pay with your credit card through MB, u can’t chargeback..
sorry for my poor english
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So far as Moneybookers is concerned, you can’t sign up. See the update on my Three Beards post yesterday for more rant material. Too funny.
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Hey, cool! My little show the commentator’s last blog post plugin is finally working! Woohoo! (It’s the little things, people!)
I actually have a whole separate rant on money orders but I am trying to be less rant-y (like a shanty but more angry) so I am saving that for a later date so its not three rants in a row. 🙂
I know some of you are saying that, in the end, it’s optional to offer money orders or not or to sign up for these services but, to me, it isn’t. With auctions, 1 extra bidder can make a huge difference in price and unless I offer every payment method allowed, I am taking the risk of turning away buyers.
Henrietta, I read your post and pretty much was like, eh, I’ll put off looking at those sites until I have to. So far, there hasn’t been any news to make me want to run out and sign up for any of them.
So far as Moneybookers is concerned, you can’t sign up. See the update on my Three Beards post yesterday for more rant material. Too funny.
Henrietta’s last blog post..The Three Beards
Hey, cool! My little show the commentator’s last blog post plugin is finally working! Woohoo! (It’s the little things, people!)
I actually have a whole separate rant on money orders but I am trying to be less rant-y (like a shanty but more angry) so I am saving that for a later date so its not three rants in a row. 🙂
I know some of you are saying that, in the end, it’s optional to offer money orders or not or to sign up for these services but, to me, it isn’t. With auctions, 1 extra bidder can make a huge difference in price and unless I offer every payment method allowed, I am taking the risk of turning away buyers.
Henrietta, I read your post and pretty much was like, eh, I’ll put off looking at those sites until I have to. So far, there hasn’t been any news to make me want to run out and sign up for any of them.
Just a comment about you rejoicing about the ban on money orders and other paper payments ( I have rants too :).) Like many other things, too many people want to force THEIR limitations on others, and this seems to be one of those instances. It appears you using this ban as an excuse for you so you don’t have to offer paper payments rather than just not offer them in the first place. I don’t work for oBay, and their tome of site restrictions/requirements are more of a political statement designed to CYA than encouraging the community that was once known as eBay. Rant off :).
BTW, I loved it when Amazon disallowed Bill Me Later from their approved payment methods when oBay bought it!
Just a comment about you rejoicing about the ban on money orders and other paper payments ( I have rants too :).) Like many other things, too many people want to force THEIR limitations on others, and this seems to be one of those instances. It appears you using this ban as an excuse for you so you don’t have to offer paper payments rather than just not offer them in the first place. I don’t work for oBay, and their tome of site restrictions/requirements are more of a political statement designed to CYA than encouraging the community that was once known as eBay. Rant off :).
BTW, I loved it when Amazon disallowed Bill Me Later from their approved payment methods when oBay bought it!
My experience with eBay and PayPal has been a total hellish experience.
After being an honest seller in eBay for many years having high volume of sales but because of spoiled customers who complain for the slighest little thing they closed my account that I had worked very hard for many years. PayPal also closed my account with an amount that they are witholding of over $2,000 of honest work. After completing PayPal’s instructions to the letter of the things I needed to do in order for them to lift the limitations on my account, and after waiting for a whole week for them to unrestrict my account, now they are using “other excuses” not to allow me to have access to my account or my money.
After speaking to an account representative this person confessed to me that
they were sorry to lose me as their customer because we for many years generated much business for them with a good customer service. But she couldn’t do anything for us, because they give the buyer all the rights no matter that you have been an honest seller. This is reason why the buyer takes advantage of every situation and they mistreat and abuse the honest seller.
In the meantime, eBay continues to send intimidating messages to my customers telling them that I am not a registered user and causing in my customers a chain panic and I can not even answer the messages because my account is blocked and my hands are tied. These messages are from my customers asking me what is going on with their purchase that I sent to them and they think the worst. This is causing a cascade of disputes from them that I do not deserve. On top of that I am not allowed to print the shipping labels of my orders because my PayPal account limitation.
Ebay and PayPal have both tied my hands and I cannot work to finish my transactions as I have always done. This is a mafia!
This last transaction has been a nightmare. I had faith in eBay and PayPal as being the number one company in this business, but their antiprofessional, dirty and intimidating practices demonstrate they are not reliable company.
I want nothing ever to do with them. I am switching over to the competition.
Ebay is transforming itself into a monopoly. Each day they are gaining more and more power and establishing outlandish and discriminating policies especially against the sellers. PayPal was created by eBay to control all your information they collect from you including your bank account information. PayPal is acting as their police. They are on the hunt to close down every eBay account from honest sellers they may simply just not approve of or like. If you are an honest seller, let it be known that you have been WARNED! This can happen to you at any moment. I never thought it would happen to me, until one good day it did. Where ever you see the words eBay and PayPal I recommend you run for the hills!
Below you will find alternative payment methods web sites you can use instead of PayPal. They have been recommended to me by other eBay sellers who have left eBay and PayPal:
1-Authorize.Net
2- 2Checkout.com
3- WorldPay
4- BluePay
5- MyCheckFree.com
6- Paytrust
7- CCNow
8- ProPay
9- Moneybookers
10- Bank of America and Citibank
Tony what’s the latest on this situation? Which payment form did you finally end up with?
My experience with eBay and PayPal has been a total hellish experience. nnAfter being an honest seller in eBay for many years having high volume of sales but because of spoiled customers who complain for the slighest little thing they closed my account that I had worked very hard for many years. PayPal also closed my account with an amount that they are witholding of over $2,000 of honest work. After completing PayPalu2019s instructions to the letter of the things I needed to do in order for them to lift the limitations on my account, and after waiting for a whole week for them to unrestrict my account, now they are using u201cother excusesu201d not to allow me to have access to my account or my money. nnAfter speaking to an account representative this person confessed to me that nnthey were sorry to lose me as their customer because we for many years generated much business for them with a good customer service. But she couldnu2019t do anything for us, because they give the buyer all the rights no matter that you have been an honest seller. This is reason why the buyer takes advantage of every situation and they mistreat and abuse the honest seller. nIn the meantime, eBay continues to send intimidating messages to my customers telling them that I am not a registered user and causing in my customers a chain panic and I can not even answer the messages because my account is blocked and my hands are tied. These messages are from my customers asking me what is going on with their purchase that I sent to them and they think the worst. This is causing a cascade of disputes from them that I do not deserve. On top of that I am not allowed to print the shipping labels of my orders because my PayPal account limitation. nnnEbay and PayPal have both tied my hands and I cannot work to finish my transactions as I have always done. This is a mafia! nThis last transaction has been a nightmare. I had faith in eBay and PayPal as being the number one company in this business, but their antiprofessional, dirty and intimidating practices demonstrate they are not reliable company. nI want nothing ever to do with them. I am switching over to the competition.nEbay is transforming itself into a monopoly. Each day they are gaining more and more power and establishing outlandish and discriminating policies especially against the sellers. PayPal was created by eBay to control all your information they collect from you including your bank account information. PayPal is acting as their police. They are on the hunt to close down every eBay account from honest sellers they may simply just not approve of or like. If you are an honest seller, let it be known that you have been WARNED! This can happen to you at any moment. I never thought it would happen to me, until one good day it did. Where ever you see the words eBay and PayPal I recommend you run for the hills! nBelow you will find alternative payment methods web sites you can use instead of PayPal. They have been recommended to me by other eBay sellers who have left eBay and PayPal:nn1-Authorize.Netn2- 2Checkout.comn3- WorldPayn4- BluePayn5- MyCheckFree.comn6- Paytrustn7- CCNown8- ProPayn9- Moneybookersn10- Bank of America and Citibankn